From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Thu May 18 00:37:55 1995 Date: Wed, 17 May 1995 18:11:56 -0400 From: "Dylan P. Thurston" Subject: Re: Revenge of the Fat Gismu (no longer Re: TEXT: le gunse ku joi le lorxu) To: Bob LeChevalier Message-ID: la lojbab. cusku di'e > Why haven't we fixed klupe? Because a while back we decided it was time to > quit playing with the language design and write the books. Ok, ok. I'll quite griping and start writing... > In the case of klupe vs. dinko, it is always the case that a screw has thread s, > annd it need not be the case that a dinko has a point per se (if it does, the > use of jesni might be in order to talk about it). (which also doesn't have a place for the point...) > Furthermore, the screw > threads in some kinds of screws (e.g. worm gears) are really rather separate > things than the support fopr the threads, hence I decided not to eliminate > the added place. I don't think I know about those screws, but I'll take your word for it. > There is also a little history in these object gismu. At one point very > early on, we identified a clear semantic distinction, a hierarchy as it were > from tutci-cabra-minji-zukte. Some of the place additions came from a > mistaken attempt to say that some gismu were necessarily subclasses of one > of these - e.g. a mruli is always a tutci etc. and it was for brevity that we > trasfered some places of tutci to mruli. Not sure what you mean. Has {tutci} lost places since this time? All the places of {tutci} seem to be covered in {mruli}. ({to'o} What's the fourth terbridi of {mruli}? The handle or an agent?) (Hey, what about my other gripes (e.g., the motion selbri)? Should I just ignore places I don't like in text I write?) --Dylan