Return-Path: <@SEGATE.SUNET.SE:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sB496-0009acC; Mon, 15 May 95 20:41 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 571DBBC4 ; Mon, 15 May 1995 19:41:30 +0100 Date: Mon, 15 May 1995 13:24:30 -0400 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: TEXT: le gunse ku joi le lorxu X-To: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199505130120.VAA01667@locke.ccil.org> from "jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU" at May 12, 95 12:29:50 pm Content-Length: 1042 Lines: 31 la xorxes. pu cusku di'e > > > Why not? I don't like the many irrelevant places of {klama}, but what > > > can I do? Any suggestions for how to say "go around the oven"? mi cusku di'e > > "mluni le toknu". xy. cusku di'e > i mluni le toknu ma ma > > The extra places of {mluni} are even more weird than those of {klama}! > Otherwise it would be a great way to say it. True, true. > (How are those places filled anyway? Why does {mluni} have a place for > "characteristics", whatever they are, and {klama} doesn't? How are > orbital parameters x4 specified? Wouldn't space tenses work much better > for that?) I suspect all that stuff is there because {la lojbab. purci ke tarske djuno}. Anyway, I didn't mean the suggestion seriously. I suspect that that the existence of x4 requires that the movement of x1 around x2 be ballistic in nature: a ball can {mluni}, but a person doesn't really {mluni} an oven. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.