Return-Path: <@SEGATE.SUNET.SE:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sAh8k-0009acC; Sun, 14 May 95 20:07 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 6A5448FD ; Sun, 14 May 1995 19:07:26 +0100 Date: Sun, 14 May 1995 13:09:17 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: {prenu} vs. {remna} X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 881 Lines: 25 la kris cusku di'e > .i pe'i frica > This may be more political opinion than linguistic opinion, but rights seem > more a self-evident property of sentient volitional beings than a particular > species of simian we call "remna". i pe'i kakne le nu cusku lu lo remna cu se zmadu li'u i ku'i la'e lu lo prenu cu se zmadu li'u cizra > If it turns out dolphins or martians can > think then I'd think they had rights of some sort. i iesai i ku'i mi senpi le du'u lei pe'a patfu be le gugde puca'o pensi ra > >co'o mi'e xorxes jambi,as > > Hmm.. using the same criteria, you could be "la jorjes. lambias."; but that > seems like a more severe change in the pronunciation... I might use {lambias} for the last name, that's how many English speakers pronounce it anyway. Or maybe, to get the right stress {lambi'as}, which sounds more lojbanic than with a comma. co'o mi'e xorxes