Return-Path: <@SEGATE.SUNET.SE:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s9YKC-0009acC; Thu, 11 May 95 16:30 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id A2F6FAB0 ; Thu, 11 May 1995 15:30:40 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 09:22:10 -0400 Reply-To: Dylan Thurston Sender: Lojban list From: Dylan Thurston Subject: Re: TEXT: le gunse ku joi le lorxu X-To: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: Content-Length: 836 Lines: 33 I wrote: > Jorge wrote: > > > Can one person {klama ru'u le toknu} (come around the oven)? > > > > Why not? I don't like the many irrelevant places of {klama}, but what > > can I do? Any suggestions for how to say "go around the oven"? > > I was confused; that helps, thanks. {mi'o ru'u} would be more precise. > And, from the place structure, {klama} seems to be a journey with a > beginning and end. How about using {litru}? > > litru: x1 travels via route x2 using means x3 > > Maybe > > litru le ru'u toknu No, that means "travel in the encircling oven", or something; in any case, not what I wanted. With a tense, litru ru'u le toknu or litru mo'iru'u le toknu or, if you want to fill the x2 place of litru, perhaps litru le stizu ru'u le toknu though that seems pedantic. co'o mi'e dilyn.