Return-Path: <@SEGATE.SUNET.SE:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s9cGt-0009acC; Thu, 11 May 95 20:43 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id F707039D ; Thu, 11 May 1995 19:43:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 13:40:39 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: coi (& tensors, in English, readable :)) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1715 Lines: 43 la goran cusku di'e > > > .i xu da pe rodo klama la intersekcn. pe la glazgob. > > > > i mi na ji'a djuno le du'u ibu mokau > > .i .ibu ji'a xarfiknei nunpe'i .i ri brarai fo loi go'i .i .ibu pe le > cabna'a cu stuzi la glazgob. pe la sunko'orgu'e .i ba'a lo su'omuki'omei > cu zvati .i .ibu detri li 8;95 i mi nelci le nu tcidu le'e xarfi'a i ku'i mi noroi zvati lo xarfiknei nunpe'i i ma fasnu fau lo nunpe'i i xu vecnu loi xarfi'a cukta i ji'a mo > But the point is, we ba'e don't have the mechanism to cope with > distances. A change is needed, yours or mine or someone elses, but there > is definitely a hole to plug. I agree, of course. > BTW, I don't think it would fit into BAI. > BAI can be converted, and I wouldn't really know what to do with sete'i > or tete'i... Every possible meaning eludes my consciousness very > conscientiously. Dunno. Yes, when I thought more about it, it seemed a bit strained there. It would be strange that a BAI should interact directly with the tenses, instead of with the selbri, like a regular BAI. > Syntax, as I see it, looks a lot like FAhA, > though the meaning is something completely different. Not like BAI. It can't very well be a FAhA. For one, those are space tenses only, but more importantly, te'i wouldn't have anything to do as a tense (selbri tcita), the magnitude of displacement there is shown by VAs and ZIs. I don't see in what way it could be said to have FAhA grammar, because te'i wouldn't form compound tenses happily. I suppose one could make a special selmaho for it, but that's not very appealing. I much prefer to use for distances the ones we already have to show indefinite distances (but maybe I already mentioned that :). Jorge