From @gate.demon.co.uk,@uga.cc.uga.edu:lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Fri Jun 09 22:06:20 1995 Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA3341 ; Fri, 09 Jun 95 22:06:16 BST Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk via puntmail for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk; Fri, 09 Jun 95 05:32:25 GMT Received: from gate.demon.co.uk by punt2.demon.co.uk id aa29302; 9 Jun 95 6:31 +0100 Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by gate.demon.co.uk id aa12212; 8 Jun 95 13:39 GMT-60:00 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7956; Thu, 08 Jun 95 08:37:45 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6859; Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:35:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 8 Jun 1995 08:36:35 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: properties of masses X-To: pcliffje@CRL.COM X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Iain Alexander Message-ID: <9506081339.aa12212@gate.demon.co.uk> Status: R I don't see any problem with pisu'o as a quantifier for masses. It means "at least some" - it does not mean "part of". All of something is certainly within the qualifications of "at least some". Similarly the su'o default quantifier on "da" isn't "wrong", i.e. makes the sentence false, if it turns out that roda broda is true. We also sometimes say that the man went into the room the moment he puts his foot down inside the room, even when part of his body remains outside. Kids especially seem to understand this meaning %^). lojbab