From @uga.cc.uga.edu:lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Fri Jun 02 22:54:08 1995 Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA3231 ; Fri, 02 Jun 95 22:54:07 BST Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk via puntmail for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk; Fri, 02 Jun 95 01:04:50 GMT Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by punt2.demon.co.uk id aa07827; 2 Jun 95 2:04 +0100 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4781; Thu, 01 Jun 95 21:02:47 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2411; Thu, 1 Jun 1995 21:00:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Jun 1995 21:02:14 -0400 Reply-To: "Dylan P. Thurston" Sender: Lojban list From: "Dylan P. Thurston" Subject: Re: quantifiers on sumti - late response X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Iain Alexander In-Reply-To: <01HR71094ZTUBINBPT@NETOP6.HARVARD.EDU> Message-ID: <9506020204.aa07827@punt2.demon.co.uk> Status: R > > > If I want to say "some books are blue" I can say either {ro lo suho > > > lo cukta cu blanu} or just {lo cukta cu blanu}, while if I want to > > > say "some books have a colour" I need to say {ro lo suo lo cukta cu > > > se skari}, or something like that. > > What's wrong with {lo cukta cu se skari}? Unfilled places are > > very accomodating. > > What fills the unfilled places in the logical form? I can't think > of anything that would do the job. How about just {lo cukta cu se skari da}? The order is important here: "For some books: for some da (maybe depending on the book): the book has color da". It's reasonable to say that elided places come at the end of the prenex, in which case there's no problem with any of these. > --- > And mu'o mi'e. dilyn.