From @uga.cc.uga.edu:lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Wed Jun 21 23:26:31 1995 Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA3503 ; Wed, 21 Jun 95 23:26:29 BST Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk via puntmail for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk; Wed, 21 Jun 95 07:43:07 GMT Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by punt2.demon.co.uk id aa18493; 21 Jun 95 8:42 +0100 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5826; Wed, 21 Jun 95 03:40:24 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2733; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 03:40:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 03:41:46 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: si'o and djuno X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Iain Alexander Message-ID: <9506210842.aa18493@punt2.demon.co.uk> Status: R Jorge: >> > Use different terms for telephone numbers and concepts of telephone >> > numbers. Mike's telephone number can be the same as Mary's without >> > the concept of Mike's telephone number being the same as the concept >> > of Mary's telephone number. We make knowledge applicable to concepts. > >Or rather, one doesn't "know" (djuno) a telephone number. What we are >discussing is not knowing a number, but knowing whether a number belongs >to someone or not. We know (djuno) facts, not objects. Fine for djuno. What is the predicate is "pensi"? Do we only "pensi" facts? Can I "pensi le du'u makau klama co sutra loi gusni" (think about the fact that something travels faster than light)? lojbab