From @uga.cc.uga.edu:lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Thu Jun 22 23:27:11 1995 Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA3528 ; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:27:09 BST Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk via puntmail for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:16:05 GMT Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by punt2.demon.co.uk id aa25970; 22 Jun 95 1:15 +0100 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3509; Wed, 21 Jun 95 20:13:51 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2640; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 20:13:51 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 14:03:50 EDT Reply-To: jorge@phyast.pitt.edu Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@phyast.pitt.edu Subject: Re: si'o and djuno X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Iain Alexander Message-ID: <9506220115.aa25970@punt2.demon.co.uk> Status: R > >Or rather, one doesn't "know" (djuno) a telephone number. What we are > >discussing is not knowing a number, but knowing whether a number belongs > >to someone or not. We know (djuno) facts, not objects. > > Fine for djuno. What is the predicate is "pensi"? Do we only "pensi" > facts? Not according to the gismu list. > Can I "pensi le du'u makau klama co sutra loi gusni" (think > about the fact that something travels faster than light)? I don't understand {sutra loi gusni}, the x2 of sutra seems to ask for an event. "I think about the fact that something travels faster than light" I would translate as {mi pensi le du'u da zmadu lo'e gusni le ka sutra le nu klama}, assuming {klama} is the right word for what light does. Jorge