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Date:         Wed, 21 Jun 1995 15:12:59 EDT
Reply-To:     jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU
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From:         jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU
Subject:      Re: curmi
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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> One does not say that A "lets B happen", unless B's potential happening
> imposes some kind of mental state on A that relates to a potential
> capability of A to interfere with B.

I have no problem with that. I think I agree that the x1 of curmi has
to have volition. I don't see why that requires an "under conditions"
place, though. What are the conditions when I say that I let something
fall to the ground? Is it something like "I let the rock fall to the
ground on a sunny day"? I suppose not. What are the conditions? They
can't be an "if" sort of clause, because that's a different construct
altogether.

> The gismu list is an attempt to divide up semantic space as it is used
> by people, not to try to impose some kind of artificial parallelism on
> all concepts.

Parallelism is nice, but even nicer are short and crisp place
structures, that don't make the concept seem like some amorphous
monster. That's just my opinion, of course.

Jorge