From @uga.cc.uga.edu:lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Mon Jun 26 00:24:34 1995 Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA3599 ; Mon, 26 Jun 95 00:24:33 BST Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk via puntmail for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk; Sat, 24 Jun 95 15:54:45 GMT Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by punt2.demon.co.uk id aa24479; 24 Jun 95 16:54 +0100 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1474; Sat, 24 Jun 95 11:52:10 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8699; Sat, 24 Jun 1995 11:51:24 -0400 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 1995 11:52:06 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: ne'i vs ne'ibo in connectives X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Iain Alexander Message-ID: <9506241654.aa24479@punt2.demon.co.uk> Status: R >la kris cusku di'e >> I wasn't sure about that -- I thought .e connected two sumti within the >> context of a particular place, rather than conjoining the places themselves. >> I.e. you could say "ne'i le botpi .e le tanxe" for "in the bottle and also >> in the box" but not "ne'i le botpi .e ne'i le tanxe". Or can you do both? > >The first is definitely right. I think you can't do the second >(although the parser accepts it, but comes up with some strange stuff) Are you sure. I'm using the 2.33 parser and it doesn't. I can't remember what Changes 34 and 35 are and whether they would be relevant, but there might therfore be an implementation problem one of those changes, especially if thhe parser gives "strange stuff" >>so my translation was wrong. {ne'i le botpi e ne'ibo le tanxe} is right >>too, but I have no idea what it means. Well "le botpi .ebabo le tanxe" means "The bottle and later the box" and "le botpi .esemu'ibo le tanxe" means "The bottle and therefore the box", so "le botpi .ene'ibo le tanxe" probably means "the bottle and inside (of it) the box", so "ne'i " probably means "inside the bottle and inside (of it) the box", which is only a special case of what Chris was trying for. lojbab