From @uga.cc.uga.edu:lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Thu Jun 22 23:27:50 1995 Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA3531 ; Thu, 22 Jun 95 23:27:40 BST Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk via puntmail for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk; Thu, 22 Jun 95 00:28:32 GMT Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by punt2.demon.co.uk id aa28210; 22 Jun 95 1:27 +0100 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3614; Wed, 21 Jun 95 20:25:31 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5704; Wed, 21 Jun 1995 20:25:31 -0400 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 1995 14:49:05 EDT Reply-To: jorge@phyast.pitt.edu Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@phyast.pitt.edu Subject: Re: scales, tolcipni X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Iain Alexander Message-ID: <9506220127.aa28210@punt2.demon.co.uk> Status: R > >I see {milxe} more as {normutce}. {tolmutce} is very little. > > So we are starting with different ideas of milxe. Given a scalar function, > my intent for these was: > > > <- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > traji na mutce na milxe na | milxe mutce traji > to'e no'e je'a > | na'e | Why not enrich the scale: traji (na) extremely not something mutce (na) very much not something milxe (na) somewhat not something tolmutce (na) very little not something nutli neutral tolmutce very little milxe somewhat mutce very much traji extremely > Given that each of these words have particular places on the scale, > treating each term as its own scale is at best ambiguous. I don't see the problem. What else could {tolmutce} be but "very little of"? > Is to'e milxe > some kind of mutce? Or some kind of milxe na I don't know. I never included it because unlike {mutce}, {milxe} doesn't seem to present a natural scale by itself. {milxe} is to me the neutral in the {mutce} scale, and the opposite of the neutral is still the neutral. Jorge