Return-Path: <@SEGATE.SUNET.SE:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sTASh-0000Z8C; Tue, 4 Jul 95 19:04 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 0EA2B4F8 ; Tue, 4 Jul 1995 18:04:23 +0200 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 1995 11:59:58 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ci stedu, and a new dumb idea on quantifiers for people to tear up X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 799 Lines: 17 >> I think it is partly hinged on the difference between restriction and >> description. (poi vs. LE) and partly on the bound/free variable distinction. >> But the arguments get bogged down in terminology and logical analysis and >> we never get anywhere, so I have stopped trying. > >I agree that we shouldn't care about terminology. A few example sentences >showing the alleged differences is all I ask. Cowan and I had a longish talk last night on the phone. Funny how things seem to get clearer at times when we do this. I was able to communicate to him the differences I felt, and he suddenly had an epiphany. I will have to write up the reasoning and explanation, but I think we got some useful answers. Give me a little time. Cowan BTW is on vacation all this week and off-net. lojbab