Return-Path: <@SEGATE.SUNET.SE:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sapmF-0000ZFC; Tue, 25 Jul 95 22:36 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id DC3EB292 ; Tue, 25 Jul 1995 21:34:18 +0200 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 1995 15:34:48 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: noa regressing X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1840 Lines: 38 And: > > >[I guess they are intended to > > >be used with gadri, e.g. {lo te noa}, but I don't see how that avoids > > >infinite regression.] > > la djef. jinvi ledu'u > > la djan. cu klama le zarci le zdani fu le karce po le nei > > Jeff opines that John goes to the store from the house in his (John's) > > car. > > la djef. jinvi leduu la djan. cu klama le zarci fu le karce po le nei > be la djan bei le zarci bei fu le karce po le nei be la djan bei le > zarci fu le karce po le nei be la djan bei le zarci bei fu le karce > po le nei be la djan bei le zarci fu le karce po le nei be la djan bei > le zarci bei fu le karce po le nei be la djan bei le zarci fu le karce > po le nei be la djan bei le zarci bei fu le karce po le nei be la djan > bei le zarci fu le karce po le nei be la djan bei le zarci bei fu le > karce po le nei be la djan bei le zarci fu le karce po le nei..... Actually, I think it would expand to: la djef jinvi le du'u la djan cu klama le zarci le zdani fu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le klama be le zarci bei le zdani beifu le karce po le nei..... But I think that {nei} and {no'a} don't really repeat the bridi, they repeat the selbri. The unfilled arguments are assumed to be the same as those of the respective bridi just because those are the most obvious ones, but they are not repeated textually (or whatever the word is in Latin). Jorge