Return-Path: <@segate.sunet.se:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from segate.sunet.se by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0soEd8-0000ZKC; Thu, 31 Aug 95 21:46 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by segate.sunet.se (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 4D5AF9A3 ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 20:46:25 +0200 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:45:19 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: Names To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 735 Lines: 22 I just realized that there is a much better way of creating a predicate out of a name than using {me} or {du}. {me} is not so good because it means "pertains to", so {mi me la xorxes} doesn't really say that I am Jorge, but rather that I pertain to Jorge in some way, for example I could say {mi me la buenosaires}, which doesn't mean that I am Buenos Aires. {du} doesn't really create a predicate, it just identifies two sumti, which is a different thing. But there is a way to make a real predicate out of a name, using {zei}: mi cu zei xorxes (Something else could be used instead of {cu}, but {cu} seems perfect for it, because it adds no semantic baggage. Of course {mi cu cu zei xorxes} is also grammatical.) Jorge