Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (psuvm.psu.edu [128.118.56.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id SAA02402 for ; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 18:12:36 -0400 Message-Id: <199508312212.SAA02402@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1192; Thu, 31 Aug 95 17:39:25 EDT Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0595; Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:46:31 -0400 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 1995 14:45:19 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: Names X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Thu Aug 31 18:12:46 1995 X-From-Space-Address: <@PSUVM.PSU.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> I just realized that there is a much better way of creating a predicate out of a name than using {me} or {du}. {me} is not so good because it means "pertains to", so {mi me la xorxes} doesn't really say that I am Jorge, but rather that I pertain to Jorge in some way, for example I could say {mi me la buenosaires}, which doesn't mean that I am Buenos Aires. {du} doesn't really create a predicate, it just identifies two sumti, which is a different thing. But there is a way to make a real predicate out of a name, using {zei}: mi cu zei xorxes (Something else could be used instead of {cu}, but {cu} seems perfect for it, because it adds no semantic baggage. Of course {mi cu cu zei xorxes} is also grammatical.) Jorge