Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (psuvm.psu.edu [128.118.56.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id RAA07271 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:17:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199508112117.RAA07271@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6428; Fri, 11 Aug 95 17:13:58 EDT Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7917; Fri, 11 Aug 1995 17:13:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 11 Aug 1995 13:34:15 -0700 Reply-To: "John E. Clifford" Sender: Lojban list From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: negation X-To: lojban list To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Fri Aug 11 17:17:17 1995 X-From-Space-Address: <@PSUVM.PSU.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> The Lojban "negation" concepts were developed in large measure from reading a book called Negation (by someone whose name I forget now, Horn?). As a result we have not only sentential negation (contradiction) but a number of predicate negations: complement (non-) and polar opposite (large-small, e.g.) and, if I remember rightly, a reversing process (make-unmake) and even a does-not-apply kind (for asking about the size of beauty, for example, or as a response to "Have you stopped beating your wife." While some of these are dubiously negations, they all are brought together by the name of the book and by some logical relations among them, particularly ties-in with the unquestionable negation: sentential. As for why we do not use these concept more often, the best answer seems to be the old one that the gismu list is not a set of semantic primes but a list of common and useful words which are at least enough to define any prdicate we want. Convenience, not strict definition, was the goal (and, beside, "small" is probably clearer and more accurate than "opposite of large"). pc>|83