Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (psuvm.psu.edu [128.118.56.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id VAA17909 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 21:57:22 -0400 Message-Id: <199508180157.VAA17909@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5440; Thu, 17 Aug 95 21:40:44 EDT Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4095; Thu, 17 Aug 1995 20:04:16 -0400 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 1995 01:02:08 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: excuses X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Thu Aug 17 21:57:28 1995 X-From-Space-Address: <@PSUVM.PSU.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Jorge to pc: > I don't have And's proposal at hand, maybe he would like to re-post it? > It involved markers precisely for the coordinating and subordinating > cases, as well as for the "superordinating" case (my word for backwards > nesting). It also had other markers that I never fully understood, but > those three were, I think, the most interesting. I hope it will not be too inconvenient if I delay re-presenting my proposals until I am possessed of a little more leisure - at the start of the academic year in late September, say. I've been too busy to participate, but I doubt that the discussion has lacked for clarity of mind and knowledge of logic as a result. [I'm amazed by how much work I've got done since I stopped participating. Lojban sort of takes over one's life without one noticing. But I'll be back.] Anyway, I trust that when Jorge & pc have sorted things out they'll let us know the result in a digestible form. The point of my proposals was simply to provide a way to indicate scope relations in afterthought, between any two quantified terms, or between a quantified term and the start or end of a specified prenex. The actual mechanics are less important; I'll return to them in due course, taking into account Jorge's critique. --- And