From <@uga.cc.uga.edu:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Mon Sep 4 14:42:15 1995 Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu (uga.cc.uga.edu [128.192.1.5]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA12501 for ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:42:14 -0400 Message-Id: <199509041842.OAA12501@locke.ccil.org> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R3) with BSMTP id 1702; Mon, 04 Sep 95 14:30:23 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2451; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:30:23 -0400 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:29:23 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: Names To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: OR la dn uygnz cusku di'e > There seems appear to be many ways of saying 'I am X.', but I really want to > know to say 'I am X Y.' where X is my given name and Y is my family name. > > mi'e dn. .uygnz. (I am Don Wiggins) > > How can you interpret this as I intend? If you want to make it clear, you could say: mi'e dn uygnz i zo dn cu prenu cmene mi i zo uygnz cu lanzu cmene mi Which roughly means: "I'm Don Wiggins. 'Don' is my given name, and 'Wiggins' is my family name." I don't think there is any need to establish any special convention. Otherwise, learning Lojban would require learning all possible ways there are for naming in different cultures. If you are talking with someone that shares your culture as far as names go, then you don't really need to explain the composition of your name. If you are talking with someone from a different culture, you can explain it with two or three sentences. Jorge