From owner-conlang@diku.dk Mon Sep 18 22:39:08 1995 Received: from odin.diku.dk (daemon@odin.diku.dk [130.225.96.221]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id WAA20239 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 22:38:53 -0400 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by odin.diku.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id WAA19603 for conlang-outgoing; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 22:04:37 -0400 Received: from tristero.io.com (tristero.io.com [199.170.88.11]) by odin.diku.dk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id EAA19581 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:03:49 +0200 Received: from io.com.io.com (dialup-62.austin.io.com [199.170.89.100]) by tristero.io.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA06401; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 21:02:49 -0500 Message-Id: <199509190202.VAA06401@tristero.io.com> X-Sender: hmiller@io.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Version 1.4.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 21:03:26 -0500 To: hrick@gate.net, conlang@diku.dk From: hmiller@IO.COM (Herman Miller) Subject: Re: CONLANG: Vorlin causatives Sender: owner-conlang@diku.dk Precedence: bulk Reply-To: hmiller@IO.COM (Herman Miller) Status: OR At 09:08 PM 9/17/95 -0400, hrick@gate.net wrote: > >As you'll recall from our previous episode, I created an infix, -ok-, >which could be inserted into a transitive verb in order to create a >causative verb; I thought the "causee" could be tagged by the indirect >object tag _ge_ as in << li vidoko buk ge zi >>, "he caused her to see >the book." Eklektu handles this problem by using the particle "lu" for the subject of a causative verb. The other particles are left alone: she saw the book: ha ta vid o cu (ha vid u ta o cu) he caused her to see the book: ha talu ta vidin o cu (ha vidin lu ta u ta o cu) (Eklektu does not normally distinguish "he" and "she".)