From <@VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM:LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> Tue Sep 19 05:18:33 1995 Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id FAA05950 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 05:18:30 -0400 Message-Id: <199509190918.FAA05950@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 6B2416F0 ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 5:01:18 -0400 Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 10:01:46 BST Reply-To: Don Wiggins Sender: Lojban list From: Don Wiggins Subject: Re: drata vs. frica To: John Cowan Status: OR >Cube1 is different from cube2 :: This would be expressed by the gismu . > >Suppose I then painted one cube red and the other blue > >Cube1 is different from cube2 in property color :: This would be expressed >by the gismu Is this expressed as: .i le pamei kubli le remei kubli cu frica le ka skari The first cube differs from the second cube in the property of colour. How does this differ from: .i le pamei kubli le remei kubli cu drata *le ka skari The first cube is other than the second cube by the standard of the propery of colour. Is it valid to use the property colour as the standard for difference? I think the crux of this problem is related to the meaning of the x3 place. co'o mi'e dn.