Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 00:29:42 +0100
From: ucleaar <ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK>
Subject: some gismu queries
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To: Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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Some queries on some gismu.
 
(1) Why do so many gismi have a conditions sumti, when we
(quite rightly) have {va'o}? Let all conditions sumti be
deleted. I reckon if this was put to a vote there'd be an
overwhelming majority in favour. Same for {ma'i} replacing
by-standard places, etc. I remember Jorge & others having
made the same point, but I forget if there's any good
argument against it.
 
(2) Is
   jdari        jar     firm    'hard'
   x1 is firm/hard/resistant/unyielding to force x2
equivalent to {tinsa fe [inwardly]}?
   tinsa                stiff
   x1 is stiff/rigid/inflexible/resistant in direction
   x2 against force x3
 
(3) Is there a difference between:
   kavbu        kav     capture  'catch'
   x1 captures/catches/apprehends x2 with trap/restraint x3
   pinfu        pif     prisoner 'captive'
   x1 is a prisoner/captive of x2, restrained/held by means/force x3;
Or, more specifically, is {kavbu} {x1=p1=k2 pifcoa x2=p2=k1
x3=p3 tahi k3}?
 
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