Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0svoJe-0000ZOC; Thu, 21 Sep 95 19:17 EET DST Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA07363 for ; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 19:17:38 +0300 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #2494) id <01HVJRURQ90G000XGH@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> for veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 19:18:39 +0200 (EET) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3473; Thu, 21 Sep 1995 12:16:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 12:33:34 -0400 From: John Cowan Subject: Re: {soi} In-reply-to: <199509210745.DAA19355@locke.ccil.org> from Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: John Cowan Message-id: <01HVJRURTS5U000XGH@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Lojban List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1333 Lines: 37 la .and. cusku di'e > How does {soi} work? The syntax is "soi [se'u]", where the sumti-references are typically, but not necessarily, pro-sumti of the vo'a-series or the ri-series. It has the grammar of a free modifier (vocative, subscript, or the like) and asserts that the bridi in which the referenced sumti appear is also true if the referenced sumti are made to occupy each other's places. The meaning is undefined if the referenced sumti are in different bridi. If is omitted, it is understood to be a reference to the immediately preceding sumti. Examples: la djim. prami la .alis. soi vo'a vo'e Jim loves Alice [reciprocally] [1st-place sumti] [2nd-place sumti] Jim loves Alice and vice versa. la djim. prami la .alis. soi ra Jim loves Alice [reciprocally] [recent-not-last sumti] Note that la djim. prami la .alis. soi dy. Jim loves Alice [reciprocally] [reference to "la djim."]. is technically bad (although probably interpretable) because "dy." corefers to Jim himself, just as "la djim." does, whereas "ri" refers directly to "la djim." and only indirectly to Jim himself. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.