Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (psuvm.psu.edu [128.118.56.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id XAA25109 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 23:08:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199509170308.XAA25109@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4014; Sat, 16 Sep 95 21:38:30 EDT Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0689; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 19:29:51 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 00:28:56 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: backchannels X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Sat Sep 16 23:08:43 1995 X-From-Space-Address: <@PSUVM.PSU.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Jorge: > > la djan spuda la and di'e > > > On the same topic, what would you use for a backchannel, like "right, > > > yeah, mhm" etc.? (I.e. stuff the addressee says while the speaker's > > > talking.) So far I'm happiest with {.a'a}. Ije loi dahi nu koa mi se bacru kei mi se xarkae. > > > Nothing in COI seems an obvious choice. {je'e} seems > > > the best, but my cmaste says it has a specialized usage of > > > acknowledgement, which is different from backchanneling. > > "je'e" is indeed the Right Thing; it specifically "acknowledges the > > successful reception of a communcation" (the attitudinal paper). > > What do you understand by "acknowledgement" other than this? > The cmavo list says: > je'e COI roger vocative: roger (ack) - negative acknowledge; > used to acknowledge offers and thanks I thought that description implies it's like a "thank you:you're welcome"/ "danke:bitte"/"grazie:prego" response. This is, as Jorge says, not the same thing as a mhm/uhuh backchannel: > Also, it would be nice to have a more gracious way of replying > to "thank you" than "mhm". Of course, it has to be somewhat > idiomatic, but I still haven't found a nice way to do it. Well, we could use {je'e} in the cmaste sense, and for backchannels use {aa} or another UI that fits the context. --- And