Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (psuvm.psu.edu [128.118.56.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with SMTP id NAA28301 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:54:39 -0400 Message-Id: <199509151754.NAA28301@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2850; Fri, 15 Sep 95 13:18:51 EDT Received: from PSUVM.PSU.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@PSUVM) by PSUVM.PSU.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6620; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:18:35 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 13:09:17 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: why lojban X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Fri Sep 15 13:54:44 1995 X-From-Space-Address: <@PSUVM.PSU.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> la stivn cusku di'e > Don't be disheartened by all the > chit-chat about language redesign. Much of the language seems essentially > unchanged from earlier versions and even from Loglan, its parent. The talk about scopes and existentialism (er.. I mean... existential import) has not been so much about redesign as about interpretation of what we already have. In any case, it is actually pretty irrelevant to the actual use that has been made of the language. It is almost impossible to find a sentence in the existing corpus that would be interpreted differently under one view or the other of the existential import of {ro}. As for scopes, it is also difficult to find an example where it matters. The reason being that most of the time there is at most one sumti in the sentence that has an interesting quantifier, and then the question of subordination simply does not arise. > It would > be helpful if there was some more discussion about those areas where there > is concensus. Could there be somethinglike this on the email list? Sure. You can start a discussion on anything you like, and usually you will get a response. Jorge