Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sujNY-0000ZOC; Mon, 18 Sep 95 19:49 EET DST Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA14921 for ; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 19:49:11 +0300 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #2494) id <01HVFM3R0EEO000KFR@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> for veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 19:50:08 +0200 (EET) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3575; Mon, 18 Sep 1995 12:48:43 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 11:53:36 +0100 From: "Steven M. Belknap" Subject: drata vs. frica Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: "Steven M. Belknap" Message-id: <01HVFM3R2XRM000KFR@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1003 Lines: 32 drata [ dat ] other x1 isn't the-same-thing-as/is different-from/other-than x2 by standard x3; x1 is something else (cf. mintu, frica) frica [ fic ] differ x1 differs/is distinct from/contrasts with/is unlike x2 in property/dimension/quantity x3 [also other-than (less common meaning)]; (cf. ranxi, drata, dunli, simsa, vrici) Suppose there were two identical steel cubes sitting on the table. They are identical in every (obvious) way, except that there are two of them, and thus they occupy different positions in space. Cube1 is different from cube2 :: This would be expressed by the gismu . Suppose I then painted one cube red and the other blue Cube1 is different from cube2 in property color :: This would be expressed by the gismu Steven M. Belknap, M.D. Assistant Professor of Clinical Pharmacology and Medicine University of Illinois College of Medicine at Peoria email: sbelknap@uic.edu Voice: 309/671-3403 Fax: 309/671-8413