Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id EAA05267 for ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 04:05:45 -0400 Message-Id: <199509190805.EAA05267@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 97F19FB7 ; Tue, 19 Sep 1995 2:53:42 -0400 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 21:08:19 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: .i zo frica zo drata cu frica ma X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Tue Sep 19 04:05:47 1995 X-From-Space-Address: <@VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM:LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU> > Hi, > Can anyone tell me the semantic difference between "frica" and "drata" - > there two seem to mean the same thing to me. I think they are the same too. One can make an artificial distinction, in saying for example that two things can be "other" without being "different", for example two identical objects. But it is all a matter of degree, after all, two identical objects will at least be different in position, or something like that, otherwise how do we know they are "other". From that perspective, it would seem that {drata} is a more absolute or intrinsic relationship, and {frica} a more relative and subjective one. In other words, you could disagree with someone on how different two things are, but you would agree that they are either other or one and the same thing. But I don't know. The same goes for their opposites {dunli} and {mintu}. Jorge