Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id WAA28716 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:30:16 -0400 Message-Id: <199509260230.WAA28716@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 4A03145C ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:11:13 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Sep 1995 22:09:48 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Beginners question (was: Re: coi za'e jboterymri) X-To: slobin@FEAST.FE.MSK.RU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Mon Sep 25 22:30:18 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU >> i le do se ciska na mutce nitcu le nu cikre i ku'i lo do lojbo zirpu ki'a > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > >I haven't found this pattern in The Draft Reference Grammar. :-( >I guess it is equal to {le se ciska be do}. Am I right? >And if yes, does the way to do the same thing with x3 etc. exists? Yes. "le do te tavla" is your topic of discussion; le do xe klama is your means of transport. The equivalent is "le se ciska/te tavla/xe klama *pe* do - i.e. there is no requirement that the "do" be in x1 of the selbri. If you NEED to be specific about the relationship of "do", you CAN make a preposed relative clause, but even I need to check the syntax in the YACC grammar so as to recall what terminators are needed. lojbab