Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0stROs-0000ZLC; Fri, 15 Sep 95 06:25 EET DST Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id GAA13351 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 06:25:14 +0300 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #2494) id <01HVAN4VT7HS000BP1@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> for veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 06:26:07 +0200 (EET) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7066; Thu, 14 Sep 1995 23:24:26 -0400 Date: Thu, 14 Sep 1995 23:23:51 -0400 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: bridi conn & Nicholas tapes Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Logical Language Group Message-id: <01HVAN4W044Y000BP1@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: topic@STUDENT.MATH.HR X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 723 Lines: 13 I didn't check all of this, but my cmavo accents seem to be identical to Goran's except when I occassionally stress the "nu" of "lenu", which I tend to do in most cases and especially when the abstraction begins with a cmavo - I also tend to pause or glottal after the "nu". I think this is partly because in my mind the clause is a unit somewhat separated from the outer sentence (at least I form it in my mind that way), and the stress immediately before, coupled with the brief pause, kind of introduces this complex substructure. I hypothesize and suspect on introspection that a "short" or "simple" lenu clause with only a brivla or tanru selbri might lead me to accent the "le" in "lenu" and to not pause. lojbab