Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id FAA10994 for ; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 05:05:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199509220905.FAA10994@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 9DC39849 ; Fri, 22 Sep 1995 3:04:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:17:04 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: {soi} X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Fri Sep 22 05:06:02 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU And: > We should distinguish either between > sumti v. vlasui/sumvla > duu, bridi v. vlabri/brivla > (but this last standardly means selbrivla) > or > sibsui/sumsio v. sumti > duu, sibbri/brisio v. bridi > > The giuste supports the former. Actual usage supports the latter. That's my impression too. When I asked Goran whether he thought {mi sumti} or {zo mi sumti} was correct in some context like {mi klama}, he said that the second one was right. That's how we use "sumti", even though the definition suggests that {mi sumti} should be right. Jorge