Message-Id: <m0ssWxp-0000ZLC@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi>
Date:         Tue, 12 Sep 1995 09:54:40 EDT
Reply-To:     jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU
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From:         jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU
Subject:      Re: afterthought conn within NU?
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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And:
> While listening to the Nicholas Tapes (just got to Goran singing the
> Lojbo-Croat anthem amidst a drunken revel),

Can I get a copy? I'll pay for shipping and handling.

> among much fascinating
> stuff I came across Nik telling Ivan that you can't do afterthought
> bridi connectives within a NU clause. Is this true?

Yes it is.

> I certainly don't
> know how to do it, but I'd always assumed that that was because I
> don't know how to do most things Lojban is capable of. Nik says to
> Ivan that the solution is to insert a {kei} plus sumti conn
> (i.e., I presume, {le nu .... kei e le nu...}) but that quite
> obviously distorts the semantics (so much so that I conclude I
> misunderstood the discussion due to poor audio quality).

There is no solution, you either use forethought or you lost the
possibility of connecting anything.

Here is an ugly trick to get around it:

        le nu ko'a broda zo'e zo'e gi'e brode fa ko'e zo'e zo'e

Jorge