Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0svQ2z-0000ZOC; Wed, 20 Sep 95 17:22 EET DST Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA19498 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:22:49 +0300 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #2494) id <01HVI9K10WXS000ROK@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> for veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 17:23:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8690; Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:22:21 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Sep 1995 10:38:52 -0400 From: John Cowan Subject: Re: Attitudes and vocatives (was: Lojban recordings) In-reply-to: <199509200149.VAA08020@locke.ccil.org> from <"jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU"@Sep> Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: John Cowan Message-id: <01HVI9K13182000ROK@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Lojban List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 934 Lines: 26 la xorxes joi la djan cusku be di'e casnu > > > What if I want to say "I got your offer, let me think about it". Is there > > > no way then of acknowledging without commiting one way or the other as to > > > acceptance? > > How about "je'e.iecu'i"? > > Yes, but then {je'e} by itself doesn't entail acceptance of an offer. > That would be {je'e.ie}. Entail, no. It seems likely to me that it suggests acceptance, though. > > Your definition of "blame" seems too broad: surely there is an element > > of condemnation in it. > > Yes, I meant that blame is more than disapproval. It is > disapproval+assignment of responsability. It is possible to > assign responsability with approval as well, although I don't > know how to do that in Lojban. Hmm, perhaps approval+assignment of responsibility is, in fact, "i'a". -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.