Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0stgxy-0000ZLC; Fri, 15 Sep 95 23:02 EET DST Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id XAA23070 for ; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 23:02:29 +0300 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #2494) id <01HVBLY7M45C000DYJ@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> for veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 23:03:20 +0200 (EET) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7200; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:01:41 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 16:00:11 -0400 (EDT) From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: jvajvo query Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Message-id: <01HVBLY9R23U000DYJ@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 729 Lines: 30 And: > QUESTION ONE > Can anyone recall the jvajvo recommendations for, say, > {koa troci/djica lo (dahi) nu koa te dunda koe}? Whose recommendations? I can give you mine... :) > Should it be > {koa troci zei te zei dunda koe} or {koa te zei dunda zei > troci koe}? I prefer {terdudytoi} to {tocterdu'a}. > The natural language pattern is generally the > latter (at least according to current theory). That's good. The place structure of {terdudytoi} according to me would be: x1 tries to receive x2 from x3 by doing x4 > QUESTION TWO > How does one distinguish (tahi loe jvajvo) between > [[te zei broda] zei brode] versus [te zei [broda zei brode]]? The latter could be: te zei ke zei broda zei brode Jorge