Return-Path: <@segate.sunet.se:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from segate.sunet.se by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0spiYW-0000ZLC; Mon, 4 Sep 95 23:55 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from segate.sunet.se by segate.sunet.se (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id FD3F8AFF ; Mon, 4 Sep 1995 22:41:07 +0200 Date: Mon, 4 Sep 1995 14:29:23 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: Names X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 936 Lines: 27 la dn uygnz cusku di'e > There seems appear to be many ways of saying 'I am X.', but I really want to > know to say 'I am X Y.' where X is my given name and Y is my family name. > > mi'e dn. .uygnz. (I am Don Wiggins) > > How can you interpret this as I intend? If you want to make it clear, you could say: mi'e dn uygnz i zo dn cu prenu cmene mi i zo uygnz cu lanzu cmene mi Which roughly means: "I'm Don Wiggins. 'Don' is my given name, and 'Wiggins' is my family name." I don't think there is any need to establish any special convention. Otherwise, learning Lojban would require learning all possible ways there are for naming in different cultures. If you are talking with someone that shares your culture as far as names go, then you don't really need to explain the composition of your name. If you are talking with someone from a different culture, you can explain it with two or three sentences. Jorge