Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0stkno-0000ZLC; Sat, 16 Sep 95 03:08 EET DST Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA27745 for ; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 03:08:16 +0300 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #2494) id <01HVBUK0EJPS000DYJ@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> for veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI; Sat, 16 Sep 1995 03:09:10 +0200 (EET) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7862; Fri, 15 Sep 1995 20:07:50 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Sep 1995 20:05:57 -0400 (EDT) From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: lojban recordings Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Message-id: <01HVBUK12HHY000DYJ@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1271 Lines: 33 la djan spuda la and di'e > > On the same topic, what would you use for a backchannel, like "right, > > yeah, mhm" etc.? (I.e. stuff the addressee says while the speaker's > > talking.) Nothing in COI seems an obvious choice. {je'e} seems > > the best, but my cmaste says it has a specialized usage of > > acknowledgement, which is different from backchanneling. > > "je'e" is indeed the Right Thing; it specifically "acknowledges the > successful reception of a communcation" (the attitudinal paper). > > What do you understand by "acknowledgement" other than this? The cmavo list says: je'e COI roger vocative: roger (ack) - negative acknowledge; used to acknowledge offers and thanks What does it mean "to acknowledge an offer"? Is it the same as accepting it? And what exactly does "i'a" mean? .i'a UI1 acceptance attitudinal: acceptance - blame What has acceptance got to do with blame? And what is {i'anai}? Is it "it's your fault" or is it "mea culpa"? Or is the scale "acceptance - blame" a scale between "my fault" and "your fault"? Also, it would be nice to have a more gracious way of replying to "thank you" than "mhm". Of course, it has to be somewhat idiomatic, but I still haven't found a nice way to do it. Jorge