Return-Path: <@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0sxB8h-0000ZOC; Mon, 25 Sep 95 12:51 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id MAA21743 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 12:51:59 +0200 Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (MAILER@CUNYVMV2) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V5.0-3 #2494) id <01HVP1CYF6VK000ZB3@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> for veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI; Mon, 25 Sep 1995 13:47:48 +0200 (EET) Received: from CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@CUNYVM) by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7742; Sat, 23 Sep 1995 17:37:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 23 Sep 1995 17:36:42 -0400 (EDT) From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: translation exercises:1 Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Message-id: <01HVP1GY1S8S000ZB3@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1129 Lines: 32 la kir cusku di'e > e. doi marca. .i me do cu prami > ^^^^^^ > Can cmeme end with vovel? Yes and no. Any selbri can be used as a name, so those kind of names do end with a vowel. It is not clear what happens with gismu-form names like {marca} that are not real gismu. Someone once used {la melbi burno} and {la pitsi burgo} for "Melbourne" and "Pittsburgh", even though most of those gismu don't exist. On the other hand, {doi marce i mi do prami} is perfectly fine and it means: "O Vehicle, I love you". la and cusku di'e > > > e. Turn the screw to the left. > ko cargau le klupe fo le zunle Which is right, but what does it mean? Is turning to the left clockwise or counterclockwise? My dictionary says that "levogiration" is counterclockwise. Is that Lojban's convention, too? > > > c. la makdonaldz. cu gusta le festi ku > > {It's waste food in McDonald's.} > McDonald's is a restaurant located in detritus. (Which is true: I live > opposite one.) (Actually, that translates {lo festi}.) The new {gusta} doesn't have a location place, you are probably looking at the old gi'uste. Jorge