Date: Thu, 21 Sep 1995 23:17:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU
Subject: Re: {soi}
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To: Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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And:
> We should distinguish either between
>    sumti               v.  vlasui/sumvla
>    duu, bridi          v.  vlabri/brivla
>                            (but this last standardly means selbrivla)
> or
>    sibsui/sumsio       v.  sumti
>    duu, sibbri/brisio  v.  bridi
>
> The giuste supports the former. Actual usage supports the latter.
 
That's my impression too. When I asked Goran whether he thought
{mi sumti} or {zo mi sumti} was correct in some context like {mi klama},
he said that the second one was right. That's how we use "sumti", even
though the definition suggests that {mi sumti} should be right.
 
Jorge