Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0t7RBW-0000ZOC; Mon, 23 Oct 95 20:01 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 65C8793D ; Mon, 23 Oct 1995 19:01:18 +0100 Date: Mon, 23 Oct 1995 12:32:49 -0400 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: "ko" considered bad To: Lojban List In-Reply-To: <199510230652.CAA21042@locke.ccil.org> from "ucleaar" at Oct 23, 95 06:46:35 am Content-Length: 909 Lines: 23 mi'a casnu di'e > John MacJohnbob: > > la paulos. cusku di'e > > > What does "le ko pinsi cu xunre" mean? > > "So act so that the pencil associated with you is red." > > If the pencil associated with you (call it Charles) is not red, then > > you have two choices: you can replace Charles with a pencil that is > > red, or you can transform Charles so that it is red. > > I can't see that replacing Charles is a valid response. Only > transforming Charles is. If replacing Charles is a valid response, > then I'd say {lo ko pinsi cu xunre}. On second thought, I agree with you. On third thought, the difference between replacing Charles and transforming him is a little fuzzy: the "ship of Theseus" poroblem, or, how much of an object can be trnasformed before it is no longer the same object. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.