Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0t5D1f-0000ZOC; Tue, 17 Oct 95 16:29 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id DF44CE7D ; Tue, 17 Oct 1995 15:29:54 +0100 Date: Tue, 17 Oct 1995 09:49:14 -0400 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: On and around "let" To: Lojban List In-Reply-To: <199510120115.VAA08251@locke.ccil.org> from "jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU" at Oct 11, 95 07:45:21 pm Content-Length: 821 Lines: 17 la xorxes. cusku di'e > I don't think there is much more than that to wrap the mind around. Even > if it's not used much, English does have or had some sort of third person > imperative. The tense of the verb in "long live the queen" is the same as > the one in "live long and prosper". Whether we call it imperative or something > else doesn't really matter. How's that again? "Live long and prosper" is straight 2nd person. Note Spock's reply: "I shall do neither, for I have killed my captain and my friend." This reply is 1st person, indicating that Spock takes the sentence to be directed at him, with implicit 2nd person subject. Of course, there is more ".aise'inai" in this than true imperative. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.