Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id TAA28235 for ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 19:14:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199510022314.TAA28235@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 9F7BE216 ; Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:52:01 -0400 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:49:08 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: tense conversions X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Mon Oct 2 19:14:06 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU la kris cusku di'e > In other words, I think "le bolci pu'o farlu" means "the ball will start > falling", not "the ball is about to fall". Are you saying that {ca pu'o} means the same as {ba co'a}? I don't agree. I think the difference between those two is precisely that the first describes the present and the second describes the future. For a claim about the present to be true, the actual future is irrelevant. For a claim about the future to be true, what is claimed must end up happening in the future. Jorge