Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0t3Lb5-0000ZOC; Thu, 12 Oct 95 13:14 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id C609C4BE ; Thu, 12 Oct 1995 12:14:42 +0100 Date: Thu, 12 Oct 1995 02:09:15 -0600 Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: la mark,l fraba'u fi la xorxes X-To: lojban@cuvmb.bitnet To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1921 Lines: 45 >Kris: >> mi pu cusku: >> >> mi ponse le la lei'ydan cukta gi'e milxe tadni >> .i la .and. cu troci lenu cikre >> > ^^ku? ^^se? >> .i pe'i na go'i .i pe'i na nitcu zo ku .i ku'i na birti > >gohi rao > >> .i zo se cu na drani --> that would mean "I have the lojban book >> and am somewhat studied" > >I thought it would mean "I have the Laadan book and mild studyee". >At present is seems to mean "I have the Laadan book and mild student". Only {je} could connect cukta and milxe tadni within the context of {le}. I don't think {gi'e} can do that -- it is a sentence level construct. I would think it ought to at least be allowed to be nested inside abstractors, but apparently it can't even do that. It always refers to the outermost sentence. My sentence should be logically interchangeable with: {mi ponse le la lei'ydan cukta .ije mi milxe tadni}. >> >> .i za'a le nimbau la lojban cu mleca leka mulno se skicu >> >fi ri juosai ro gerna le jbogerna cu mleca >> ^^fa? > >NO!!? Are you telling me that use of FA affects the x-numbering >of subsequent suivla? So without that added {fa} it's as if there >were a {fo} there? No! Mercy! Yes. Sorry, no mercy for the wicked. :-) >From the reference grammar: ]What if some sumti have FA tags and others do not? The rule is that after ]a tagged sumti, any sumti following it occupy the places succeeding it, ]subject to the proviso that an already-filled place is skipped: (I love quoting from the reference grammar -- it's not because I'm trying to be didactic or something, it's just that it forces me to look it up and make sure I'm right. Lots of times I've deleted stuff unsent because I looked it up to quote it and realized I was wrong.) ____ Chris Bogart \ / ftp://ftp.csn.net/cbogart/html/homepage.html \/ cbogart@quetzal.com