Return-Path: <@segate.sunet.se:LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@BITMAIL.LSOFT.COM> Received: from segate.sunet.se by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0szwWV-0000ZSC; Tue, 3 Oct 95 03:51 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by segate.sunet.se (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id AB93E013 ; Tue, 3 Oct 1995 2:51:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Oct 1995 18:49:08 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: tense conversions X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 519 Lines: 13 la kris cusku di'e > In other words, I think "le bolci pu'o farlu" means "the ball will start > falling", not "the ball is about to fall". Are you saying that {ca pu'o} means the same as {ba co'a}? I don't agree. I think the difference between those two is precisely that the first describes the present and the second describes the future. For a claim about the present to be true, the actual future is irrelevant. For a claim about the future to be true, what is claimed must end up happening in the future. Jorge