Return-Path: <@segate.sunet.se:LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@BITMAIL.LSOFT.COM> Received: from segate.sunet.se by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0t0lqo-0000ZUC; Thu, 5 Oct 95 10:40 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by segate.sunet.se (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 0BB7EAEE ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 9:40:18 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 04:38:35 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: tenses X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 598 Lines: 14 >(iii) that to assert {ba broda} >is to be on epistemically shaky ground, (iv) that (iii) does not have >any bearing on the accuracy of (i-ii), Well, Lojban is nothing if not loose on epistemology. After all, you can claim something is true on the basis of a dream. Now, the question of whether the dream comes through is decidable on the basis of more objective epistemologies when the time comes, but subjective epistemologies are rather less subject to the time constraint. I would claim that co'u citka le plise never occurred, but certainly an event of eating the apple did start. lojbab