Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id FAA10227 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 05:03:23 -0400 Message-Id: <199510050903.FAA10227@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 239C7DCB ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 4:40:20 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 04:38:35 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: tenses X-To: ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Thu Oct 5 05:03:26 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU >(iii) that to assert {ba broda} >is to be on epistemically shaky ground, (iv) that (iii) does not have >any bearing on the accuracy of (i-ii), Well, Lojban is nothing if not loose on epistemology. After all, you can claim something is true on the basis of a dream. Now, the question of whether the dream comes through is decidable on the basis of more objective epistemologies when the time comes, but subjective epistemologies are rather less subject to the time constraint. I would claim that co'u citka le plise never occurred, but certainly an event of eating the apple did start. lojbab