Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id AAA26572 for ; Sun, 15 Oct 1995 00:51:03 -0400 Message-Id: <199510150451.AAA26572@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 472B9F00 ; Sat, 14 Oct 1995 23:57:27 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Oct 1995 03:17:42 MET Reply-To: Goran Topic Sender: Lojban list From: Goran Topic Subject: Re: imperatives X-To: Lojban Listserv To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Sun Oct 15 00:51:05 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU > I thought of another case where even modern English uses a third person > imperative: when the subject is "nobody", "somebody" or "everybody". > > ei noda pencu ti > Nobody touch this. > > e'o da sidju mi > Somebody help me! > > ei roda punji lei ri cukta le jubme > Everybody put their books on the table. > > Aren't those third person imperatives in English? I am far from being an authority on English... but the 2nd and, especially, 3rd sentence above can be both true imperatives as well as a subjunctive acting as a 3rd person imperative. If you don't believe me, stick a comma inside, shift accent accordingly, and see what happens. co'o mi'e. goran. -- GAT/CS/O d?@ H s:-@ !g p1(2)@ !au(0?) a- w+(+++) (!)v-@(+) C++(++++) UU/H(+) P++>++++ L(>+) !3 E>++ N+ K(+) W--(---) M-- !V(--) -po+ Y(+) t+@(+++) !5 !j R+@ G-@(J++) tv+(++) b++@ D++ B? e+* u@ h!$ f?(+) r-- !n(+@) y+. GeekCode v2.1, modifications left to reader to puzzle out