Received: from VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (vms.dc.lsoft.com [205.186.43.2]) by locke.ccil.org (8.6.9/8.6.10) with ESMTP id NAA20875 for ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 13:19:13 -0400 Message-Id: <199510051719.NAA20875@locke.ccil.org> Received: from PEACH.EASE.LSOFT.COM (205.186.43.4) by VMS.DC.LSOFT.COM (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 5253CB68 ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 12:55:33 -0400 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 12:50:00 LCL Reply-To: BARRETO%VELAHF@ECCSA.TR.UNISYS.COM Sender: Lojban list From: Paulo Barreto Subject: Some questions on le'avla X-To: lojban%cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu@TRSVR.UniGate1.Unisys.COM To: John Cowan Status: OR X-From-Space-Date: Thu Oct 5 13:19:16 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU coi There are word lists for cmavo, gismu, lujvo, etc., but I haven't found a le'avlaste anywhere. Is there something like that? Also the "algorithm" to make le'avla is not very specific about which consonant one should choose to begin the borrowing, which vowel to end it, which form of the original word to take, and even which gismu are most suitable to prefix it. For instance, the word "jenmrxametista" was suggested for "amethyst". Why an "x" at the beginning? Why the final "a"? The Aesop's fable text contains some animal names, e.g. "resprtestudine", "calkrdanlrkankre" (two prefixes!), and "cipnrkorvo". Then the ablative singular forms of the latin words "testudo", "cancer" and "corvus" were used in the le'avla. Is there any special reason? (This rule would also explain the final "a" in "jenmrxametista", and also suggest "jenmrxonike" or "jenmrxonice" for "onyx"). Still on "calkrdanlrkankre". The gismu "jukni" is defined as "x1 is a spider/arachnid/[crustacean/crab/lobster/non-insect arthropod] of species/breed x2". Then why not "juknrkankre"? By the way, is it possible to combine le'avla into lujvo, e.g. "cipnrkorvyterbilma" (crow disease)? ki'ecai co'o mi'e paulos. Paulo S. L. M. Barreto -- Software Analyst -- Unisys Brazil Standard disclaimer applies ("I do not speak for Unisys", etc.) e'osai ko sarji la lojban.