Return-Path: <@segate.sunet.se:LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@BITMAIL.LSOFT.COM> Received: from segate.sunet.se by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0t0vOH-0000ZUC; Thu, 5 Oct 95 20:51 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by segate.sunet.se (LSMTP for OpenVMS v0.1a) with SMTP id 6F7D3CEB ; Thu, 5 Oct 1995 19:51:33 +0200 Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 14:22:00 -0400 Reply-To: John Cowan Sender: Lojban list From: John Cowan Subject: Re: Some questions on le'avla X-To: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199510051804.OAA22590@locke.ccil.org> from "jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU" at Oct 5, 95 01:34:25 pm Content-Length: 1316 Lines: 36 la xorxes. cusku di'e > I think that in principle, > anything that can't be a gismu or lujvo and doesn't violate the > morphology rules could be a fu'ivla, but I'm not even sure that is > true. It is true. > The algorithm is a way of making sure of getting something that > can't be a gismu or lujvo, but I think it is not required that all > fu'ivla use it. Right. In principle, hand-crafted le'avla for high-frequency concepts are fine: the algorithm just removes the need for careful checking. > Which form of the original word to use is not at all clear. Ideally, > words to be borrowed should have only one form. When this is not > the case, I don't know what happens. The word-coiner has to choose. > > By the way, is it possible to combine le'avla into lujvo, e.g. > > "cipnrkorvyterbilma" (crow disease)? > > If fu'ivla can't contain "y", then there should be no problem, but > I don't know what's the rule. It is true that le'avla can't contain "y", but this trick still doesn't work, as I explained in my previous post. At one point we were going to use ",iy," as the le'avla glue, but that ran into trouble as well, so I invented "zei" and that is now the answer to all such problems. -- John Cowan cowan@ccil.org e'osai ko sarji la lojban.