Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tAt4E-0000ZRC; Thu, 2 Nov 95 08:24 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id A56F5F9E ; Thu, 2 Nov 1995 7:24:01 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Nov 1995 01:21:02 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Pointing To: dwiggins@BFSEC.BT.CO.UK Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 996 Lines: 18 mi jarco sepi'o lemi degji leka farna le blanu stizu mi I show using my finger the directionality of the blue chair from me. That your finger actually shows a direction is somewhat of an abstraction. We have learned to recognize that in some circumstances, an extended digit stands for the intention to indicate that something of interest lies at the projected line running through the axis of the digit. Thus to talk in detail about the mechanics of pointing, you might need to use words for axis, projection, line, etc. This complication might suggest that a gismu might be needed, except when you look at how we use the word "point" in English: "the sign points the way" may refer to an arrow head painted on a sign, or may simply be a sign physically located in the desired direction that doesn't actualy have a "pointing" indication anywhere on it. At which point you realize that the "pointing" is just the indication that the direction is being indicated in some abstract way. lojbab