Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tFsqH-0000ZTC; Thu, 16 Nov 95 03:10 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id 23245B5E ; Thu, 16 Nov 1995 2:10:17 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 1995 20:08:18 -0500 Reply-To: Jorge Llambias Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: lujvo query To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu, jorge@minerva.phyast.pitt.edu Content-Length: 811 Lines: 21 And: > Is there a jvajvo principle that says that in {broda zei cmoda}, > b1 = c1? The two most common place structures for {broda zei cmoda} probably are: (1) c1=b1 c2 c3 ... b2 b3 ... (2) c1 (c2=b1) c3 c4 ... b2 b3 ... The places shown in parenthesis are anihilated. The b1-place in (2) may anihilate a higher c-place instead of c2, but c2 is the most common. b2, b3, etc often fall together with some of the other c-places, sometimes anihilating it and sometimes not. Sometimes a b-place may show up on its own before some of the c-places, especially if cmoda has places like "by standard", or "under conditions". (Things like brodygau, with places g1 b1 b2 b3 ... are really special cases of (2). The form brodygau has the places of nunbrodygau, and the nun- is dropped for succintness.) Jorge