Return-Path: Received: from SEGATE.SUNET.SE by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0tHc4c-0000ZUC; Mon, 20 Nov 95 21:40 EET Message-Id: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by SEGATE.SUNET.SE (LSMTP for OpenVMS v1.0a) with SMTP id DBB49E83 ; Mon, 20 Nov 1995 20:40:14 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Nov 1995 14:39:26 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Goran on phonology To: jimc@MATH.UCLA.EDU Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 601 Lines: 11 Actually, Jim, I think you probably do aspirate - indeed more often than not. English mouths just do not prevent aspiration unless trained, and California dialects have plenty of them (I should know). Try "Peter Piper", which is a tongue twister at least in part because it is hard to recover from the aspiration in time to do it again wihtout sounding like you are spluttering. Also compare, say "stick" and "stag" - I definitely aspirate the first, but probably do not the second in normal speech. (You might tell the difference better if you make a single sentence using both words. lojbaba